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This episode examines a Chinese family's baptism ceremony in Berkeley, exploring the intersection of tradition, identity, and generational divides. Through Ernie's reflections, we uncover the silent transformations and tensions that shape immigrant faith and belonging. From emotional struggles to reinterpretations of rituals, we navigate the complexities of cultural and familial bonds in diaspora communities.
Ernie Hsiung
So, when I think back to the Chinese for Christ Church in Berkeley, itâs, uh, kind of like... a time capsule, you know? The whole place just felt like it was frozen in this very specific, almost sacred, state of being. I mean, the gray short-thread carpet? That wasnât just carpet; that was _every_ church carpet, right? Worn down by decades of potlucks and awkward conversations in the doorway while your mom tries to leave but keeps getting stopped.
Ernie Hsiung
And the metal cross on the wall, right next to that framed poster with the Chinese translation of Psalms 23âLord is my shepherd, I shall not wantâitâs like those decorations were saying, "Hey, this isnât just a space; this is tradition." Itâs meant to wrap around you, you know, like a blanket⊠but, but sometimes it also squeezes you a little too tight.
Ernie Hsiung
And, uh, in the corner of that multipurpose room, there was this baby blue hot tub. Yeahâjust, just sitting there. No jets, no bubbles, nothing. And I remember it had this plywood cover on it most Sundays, so it kinda just blended in with the room. But when the cover came offâlike on Baptism Sundaysâman, suddenly it wasnât this inert object anymore. It became this⊠this weird focal point. Like, "Oh, this is where transformation happens. This right here."
Ernie Hsiung
What always stuck out to me, though, was how... I donât know, unassuming it all felt? This mix of elementsâthe baptismal pool, those folding chairs with just enough wobble to them, the hymns sung in awkward Mandarinâit was all rooted in tradition, but, but there was this tension to it, too. Like, was this someoneâs idea of belonging? Or was it a reminder of how _we_ hadnât really found a space of our own yet?
Ernie Hsiung
Actually, it reminded me of this one tech Meetup I went to. It was held in a decommissioned churchâsame kind of carpet, same kind of long wooden benches, but instead of baptisms, there were whiteboards covered in diagrams of Kubernetes clusters, you know? And I, I remember thinking how weirdly comfortable yet alien that was. Like, these were my people professionally, but this didnât feel like home either. It, itâs the same feeling I had at the church: Like I belonged, but also like I didnât.
Ernie Hsiung
And, honestly, I think thatâs, uh, kinda the story of being the child of immigrants, right? Especially when youâre walking that tightrope of holding onto tradition but trying to make sense of it through this, like, modern, fragmented lens. The room, the decorations, even that baptismal pool they brought outâit all said something. Something both comforting and stifling at the same time.
Ernie Hsiung
Anyway, that day, the room felt... off to me, even more so than usual. The light seemed too harsh, and I couldnât shake this one thought: Something was... about to happen. And it wasnât exactly a good feeling.
Ernie Hsiung
So, picture this: rows of metal folding chairs all lined up in front of that baby blue baptismal tub, the kind youâd maybe see on sale at a home improvement store. My family was sitting near the front, Grandma next to me, her fingers already wrapped tight around her prayer beads. And then, out comes my sister, wearing this, like, canvas-colored tunic. It hung loosely on her, kinda shapeless, and it made her look... I donât know, smaller somehow. Like she wasnât herself, you know?
Ernie Hsiung
And she stood there at the edge of the pool, head bent down like she was trying to disappear into it, and IâI actually remember thinking, "This doesnât look right." Like, everything about her felt offâher posture, the way her hair fell over her face. It was like someone had swapped her out for a different version of herself, but not, not in a way that was comforting. And the room? The room was so quiet. Too quiet. Everyone was watching, but nobody really knew what to sayâor if they should say anything at all.
Ernie Hsiung
Except for Grandma. She was muttering prayers under her breath, the same three phrases again and again: æèŹè¶ç©, æèŹè¶ç©, ćć©è·Żäș. Thanks be to Jesus, Hallelujah. Her voice was soft but steady, like a metronome, while next to her, I was just... squirming in my seat. The silence in the rest of the room was deafening, but she seemed completely unbothered by it, like there was nothing to question here. Nothing to worry about.
Ernie Hsiung
And that contrastâbetween Grandmaâs unshakable faith and... everything elseâit made me realize just how differently we all processed moments like this. For her, what was happening was sacred. It was this step toward salvation, right? Like, beyond anything physically uncomfortable. But for me? For me, all I could feel was unease. Like, did this really belong to us? Or were we just, like, trying on someone elseâs clothes and hoping theyâd fit?
Ernie Hsiung
And itâs not just about the baptism, you know? That room, that dayâit was this flashpoint for how immigrant families, especially ones like ours, try to repaint these cultural rituals to mean something personal, something adaptable. But honestly, it never quite fits perfectly. Thereâs always rough edges, always parts of the ritual that feel like theyâre supposed to mean more than they actually do in the moment itself.
Ernie Hsiung
And my sister standing there, face half-hidden, being eased into the water by Pastor Tienâit didnât look like salvation. It looked like hesitation. Resistance, even. And then when they brought her back up? She was shivering, shaking, like the whole thing had pulled something out of her that she couldnât put back in. I remember her covering her face with her hands, first to wipe the water away, but, but then she started sobbing. Like, really crying, you know? Not the kind of crying you can ignore.
Ernie Hsiung
And the room⊠the room reacted, but not in words. People shifted in their seats. They looked down. Nobody knew if they should clap or sit quietly orâwell, I donât even know what else. It wasnât the kind of crying anyone expected. And in the middle of all this, Grandma? She just kept praying, eyes shut tight.
Ernie Hsiung
My sister didnât come back to sit with the rest of us after the baptism. Instead, she disappeared through those double doors to change, and IâI remember watching them swing shut, thinking how strange it felt. Like, nothing had really changed, but everything had, you know? We never talked about it afterward. Not about the tears, not about why she was crying, not even about what it all meant to herâor to us. There was just... silence.
Ernie Hsiung
And maybe thatâs, uh, kinda the point. A lot of things in immigrant families are like thatâunspoken, unaddressed. Like this invisible weight that just settles over you. Did her tears mean something profound? Was she overcome, orâor was she just overwhelmed? I donât know. I mean, I was a kid, too young to ask questions like that. But looking back, it feels like those tears were more than just, you know, chlorine water and nerves. They, they said something. We just didnât have the words to understand it.
Ernie Hsiung
And, uh, that silenceâit wasnât like an empty silence. It was more like... the kind of quiet that stretches between people who care about each other, right? Like, we all knew something shifted that day, but naming it wouldâve, I donât know, made it too real. So we just... didnât.
Ernie Hsiung
Honestly, I think thatâs one of the hardest parts of growing up in a space like this one. These ritualsâthe baptisms, the hymns, the folding chairsâtheyâre supposed to hold so much meaning. Theyâre supposed to anchor you, give you a foundation, but for kids like my sister and me, they can just as easily unmoor you. Youâre constantly trying to reconcile what these moments mean to your family and culture with what they mean to you, personally.
Ernie Hsiung
And, yeah, I still think about my grandma that day, sitting there, praying while my sister cried. Her faithâso solid, so sureâgave her this kind of peace, but it also created this weird gulf between us. Because IâI didnât have that same peace. I wanted to, but I just... couldnât find it.
Ernie Hsiung
And maybe thatâs where the tension comes in, you know? Immigrant families, we hold so tightly to traditions, to rituals, hoping theyâll, like, tether us to something concrete in a world that feels like itâs constantly shifting. But what happens when those rituals donât feel like they fit anymore? When the meaning doesnât translate? You end up carrying the weight of it anyway, even if it doesnât make sense.
Ernie Hsiung
In the end, though, maybe thatâs okay. Maybe itâs not about the rituals fitting perfectly, but about trying to make sense of them together. My sisterâs baptismâthat dayâwe didnât have any big revelations or profound conversations afterward, but we still had the silence. And in its own way, that silence was enough. It let us hold onto the pieces we could understand, while letting the rest... just be.
Ernie Hsiung
And thatâs all for today. Thanks for listening. I, I really appreciate you sharing this space with me. Until next time, take care.
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